Progresser en escalade...suite

Posté en tant qu’invité par Louis:

Salut à tous,

La saison se termine…au début, j’avais mis un post sur quelques conseils (sans prétention) pour progresser –Regarder dans l’historique-.
Quelques mois + tard, la liste s’est enrichie…

Voici donc la suite tant attendue !

Avancer par petits pas

Appuis jambes très écartées (soit pour progresser ou pour se reposer)

Position V latéral

Grimper parfois de profil

Bien poser ses pieds et appuyer dessus !

Lorsqu’il n’y a pas de grosses prises, prendre les petites prises !!!

C’est le dernier conseil d’un certain Jacques, mais Wahil m’a dit qu’il en avait plein comme celui-ci !..

Des commentaires ?

Louis

Posté en tant qu’invité par Nukem:

Louis a écrit:

Avancer par petits pas

ça marche aussi dans les jetés ?

Posté en tant qu’invité par ZeBadGuy:

Y a aussi avoir un beau T-shirt.
Et s’être épilé le maillot la veille.

Posté en tant qu’invité par blaireau:

Louis une question !
Pourquoi tu utilises le shunt comme autoblocant ?

Posté en tant qu’invité par armellle:

Louis a écrit:

Avancer par petits pas

bof…perso, j’ai fait « d’énormes » progrès après avoir compris qu’il fallait monter les pieds…haut…voire très haut…c’est énorme l’amplitude que tu gagnes!
non?

Posté en tant qu’invité par val:

c est clair !
il parait qu il faut grimper leger !
donc n oubliez pas les sourcils ni les poils de nez !
mdr

Posté en tant qu’invité par val:

cf : sujet sur les nains !
si tu peux les grimper a hauteur d oreille (les pieds pas les nains )
tu gagne ENORME en amplitude !
lol

Posté en tant qu’invité par jesus:

avancer par petit pas ne peut pas être considéré comme une règle générale. L’inverse peut-être justa aussi, tout dépend de la voie, mais il est vrai qu’il vaut mieux tant que possible ne pas monter trop haut car souvent cela induit que tu dois tirer fort sur les bras.

jambes très écartées ?? idem, on ne peut pas en faire une règle générale.

les pieds c’est clair servent à pousser et les bras à te maintenir sur la falaise tant que possible.

sinon on prend les prises qu’on trouve, les meilleurs si possible.

des commentaires ? oui, c’est nul ces conseils :))

LES CONSEILS QUE J’aime in english please (www.8a.nu) :

  1. Look down on your feet

Some 90 % of all climbers would improve simply by giving more attention to footholds instead of handholds. A climber that is looking down will automatically stay more relaxed, find better positions for the feet and body and also lean less outwards than the one using the neck as a periscope. If you do this while training you will quickly adapt. An easy way of checking the experience of a climber is measuring how much of the time he spends looking downwards.

  1. Avoid lactic acid - Lift your arms

If you could avoid lactic acid in your arms for a month or so, you would probably advance one grade as your muscles could grow instead of being broken down by acid. Top climbers (8a<) and other competitive athletes sometimes teach their muscles to work with acid as a source of energy, but only for short periods, as acid in the long run will break down their muscles. Warming up is the key to avoid acid. Very often, the arms are flooded and the blood circulation decreases as a result of too hard warming up. One trick of increasing the circulation is to lift and sink your arms when needed.

  1. Breathing & Relaxation

‹ Breath › is something everybody has screamed or been encourage to do after some desperate moves. With your breathing you can either get more relaxed or, with some hyperventilation, more tensed and stronger. As yoga is based on breathing, so could your climbing. Before you start, concentrate on your breathing. This is something you have to practice. The best way of getting immediate relaxation on jugs after the crux is to focus on your breathing. Count down from 10, shut your eyes and imagine you are placed in syrup. Take some quick breaths and push through the next crux.

  1. As many meters/moves as possible

During an hour a top climber do up to 100 metres per hour while other climbers fight to get 20 - 40. In order to build a broad base and avoid acid and injuries one should strive towards climbing easier grades. Some 50 % of your training should just be based on easy climbing where you could focus on technical training.

  1. High point

Most climbers struggle with pushing themselves mentally but instead of falling they say ‹ Take › (Not. climbing.lu: « zou, zouuuu, … »). By doing so you never learn where your limit is and you never practice making moves under pressure. It is very easy to give up when you realise this attempt won’t take you to the top and you might be afraid of falling. However, if you once (or sometimes) go for a high point, meaning that you fight as long as possible including a jump to get chalk as high up as possible, you will get surprised. By climbing on top-rope you will make it easier to push yourself and by doing so you will take the advantage of training climbing under pressure.

  1. Coaching & Memo in chalk bag

We think most climbers would gain from being coached while redpointing. This person should pep talk but also remind you of certain things like; Breathing, Finger positions etc. You could also put a memo symbol in your chalk bag like a coin or a stone which symbolises Breathing or Looking down. It is very easy to, once you have started to climb, getting into the zone and forgetting all your tactics.

  1. Finger positions

The key to do the last moves is often to keep that closed crimp position. As you get more tired and land on the last holds with open hand, you have to stop to adjust to the crimp position before you do the next move. This is almost impossible to do as a routine so here you want to hear your friend scream - Criiiimp!

  1. Safety

Do you trust your partner 100%. If not, you will instinctively feel that something could happen when you?re standing there shaking with you feet well above the last bolt. By doing some short falls you will be a better team and your climbing will be better. Tell him that you want him to say ?? I got you, come on!?

  1. Pulsation holding

This is very hard to learn quickly but it’s nevertheless one the best ways to improve your endurance by avoiding acid (pump). Your heart tries to pump out fresh blood more than once every second. As you hold a hold for some seconds the circulation is hindered. Try to pulsate your holds often even if only for a fraction of a second to keep the blood flowing. By training this technique you will quickly get a much better endurance compared to simply working your muscles.

  1. Clipping later

Let’s say you do five hard moves before reaching a jug and the clipping position. If you immediately, with high tension, put in the quick-draw and the rope it is like doing seven hard moves before you rest. Instead, strive towards relaxing (see short cut 3) first and chalk later, with low tension, then make the clip and you have just saved energy.

  1. Recruiting muscles fibres

Most of you do have to do some 30 minutes of climbing and some maximum moves until you have recruited all your muscle fibres. Once you start practicing and maybe hang-dog the route it is very easy to loose self-confidence as you don’t feel that strong in the beginning. Don’t start telling everybody that you feel weak or that it is bad conditions. Instead, recruit your muscles. If you are a slow starter you have to be like a robot (with no feelings) in the beginning of each climbing day.

Posté en tant qu’invité par Louis:

Je trouve le shunt bien commode, simple d’utilisation et polyvalent (rappels, remontée sur corde…)
Le machard est plus léger, mais pas très facile à débloquer par ex.

Louis

Posté en tant qu’invité par J2LH:

Louis a écrit:

Le machard est plus léger, mais pas très facile à débloquer par
ex.

Tout dépend du diamètre, avec du 7mm ou 8mm il n’y a aucun problème, surtout si c’est mis au dessous du frein.
Si par exemples tu te bloques sèchement sur du 5mm placé au dessus du frein il est clair que tu risques d’avoir du mal à repartir mais tu n’es pas obligé de te mettre dans la plus mauvaise des situations.

Moi c’est le Shunt que j’ai du mal à débloquer.

Posté en tant qu’invité par Nukem:

J2LH a écrit:

Moi c’est le Shunt que j’ai du mal à débloquer.

Et la situation aussi, souvent.

Posté en tant qu’invité par blaireau:

21mn pour le temps de réaction de J2LH.
Y nous couve quelque chose le gamin!